imagine the united states, if they had done -- what macho would have said. everybody, like the boston massacre, just mow down everybody trying to cross the embassy walls, just kill them all. >> right. >> what's sad, also, is that we're actually paying any attention to sarah palin. let's be clear here, sarah palin's constituency are people who wear red rubber noses and bells on their shoes. but what's noteworthy here is that sarah palin speaks for, what, maybe half of the republican party. and as joan mentioned, she sounds -- and if she and mitt romney sound just alike right now. >> well, you just said two different things, ron, my friend. you said that she doesn't speak for anybody. then -- or she doesn't have a constituency, and then you said she speaks for half the party. >> no, no, no. i'm saying we shouldn't pay attention to her because her constituency are ignorant and foolish people, but ignorant and foolish people make up about half of the republican party right now. that's what i'm saying. and that's the only thing noteworthy about what she's doing.